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  1. Virgil the Socialist

    Punished at school for talking about Jesus!

    For an emotional event like this I feel like there is probably the version of events mom posts on facebook and tells to the online Christian messageboard. And then there is probably the teacher's version about the class of 30 1st graders and the one little tyke whose disruptions were very...
  2. Virgil the Socialist

    Genesis story of creation "Days" literal or not?

    Genesis was written 2500-3000 years ago by priests who were largely mimicking Mesopotamian law and literature. I don't think the intent of their rather unique creation myth was to engineer an elaborate symbolic allegory to the extent that people have tried to harmonize it with science. It needs...
  3. Virgil the Socialist

    They could be watching you

    Many cities hire traffic engineers that use intersection cameras for traffic flow purposes. I happened to speak with one of my city's traffic engineers several years back. He said all of the traffic lights in my town have cameras mounted. I started looking and sure enough they do. He explained...
  4. Virgil the Socialist

    Why do you use Tapatalk?

    I follow a few forums on my phone. Message boards don't show up very well on a phone's browser. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
  5. Virgil the Socialist

    USA Keep Religion Out of Public School

    I think that you're assuming that removing mandated school prayer caused cultural changes rather than the other way around. Of course abortion, drugs, rampant sexual abuse of minors, domestic violence were all part of the first half of the 20th century but were taboo. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL...
  6. Virgil the Socialist

    Thoughts on the 'annihilationism' Thread

    That's one interpretation. It is set up and structured like a parable. "There was a rich man" etc. Ends with a moral lesson. Could be using popular afterlife imagery common among jewish people in this Hellenistic period, even if a bit off. The story of rich man and the steward seems to draw...
  7. Virgil the Socialist

    USA Keep Religion Out of Public School

    Well amen. I'm glad we can agree on this. That wasn't always the case. Christians have long argued that certain everyday choices like music preferences, masturbation, etc are wrong because they are part of the unchanging moral fabric of the universe imposed by a god. Ah who decides what things...
  8. Virgil the Socialist

    USA Keep Religion Out of Public School

    I see you mostly replied in defense of yourself, which means you felt attacked. My apologies. I was intending to comment on the populist rhetoric you were using and why I think it's inaccurate when applied to this topic. As far as what you just said, I think there are a lot wonderful things...
  9. Virgil the Socialist

    Thoughts on the 'annihilationism' Thread

    Do you read parables literally? Why did they choose put the comma before "today" and not after it? There is no punctuation in Greek. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
  10. Virgil the Socialist

    Atheism ...

    From day to day I literally never think about being an atheist though unless someone asks me about my belief in god, to which I have to say I don't really have one. Its not part of my identity even. There are tons of likely non-existent things that I don't believe in or ever think about. I don't...
  11. Virgil the Socialist

    USA Keep Religion Out of Public School

    What ways have you had to accept? I found it fascinating how easy it was for you to steer the conversation away from religion and toward right wing tropes about immigrants and PC culture. It's a good example of how meaningless political rhetoric can infect other areas of discourse. As far as...
  12. Virgil the Socialist

    USA Keep Religion Out of Public School

    How is God kept out of schools? What do you wish that Christian students could do that they are prevented from doing? Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
  13. Virgil the Socialist

    USA Keep Religion Out of Public School

    That's a great example. And I think the vast majority of teachers, school administrators, and parent would agree and it would be rare to find a person launch a moral defense of Hitler or Stalin to use your other example. And you might call the error of murder and rape "absolute morality" or...
  14. Virgil the Socialist

    age you can buy a gun

    If we're getting technical then "mass shooting" is a meaningless phrase since it has no definition. But school shootings happen several times per month in the US, which is a lot in the minds of most people. They are not the predominate type of everyday gun-related death in the US. But they are...
  15. Virgil the Socialist

    age you can buy a gun

    If pressure cooker bombs became a significant, widespread problem, then yes. But it's just one of many ways that people can make a bomb, and bomb-making / bomb-related crimes in general are not very common in the US. You're trying to use an "argument to absurdity" by using the phrase "can kill."...
  16. Virgil the Socialist

    age you can buy a gun

    It would over time reduce the number of legally held firearms and lengthen the window of time required to access one. If mandatory training was associated it would increase safety and storage of firearms. A lot of firearms used for murder and suicide are obtained from family members so to...
  17. Virgil the Socialist

    age you can buy a gun

    Yes, that's a reasonable point. It's not a new situation though. The intent of many government policies is to impact the behavior of bad actors. Agreed. That is undisputed. And so what if 99.9% of consumers are inconvenienced? This is true for most governmental policies where some commercial...
  18. Virgil the Socialist

    age you can buy a gun

    Not really. There is a direct correlation between the introduction of those policies and corresponding drastic decline in deaths. There is no immutable right to a firearm. It would require concerted and sustained institutionalized effort like it does with automobile titles and driver's...
  19. Virgil the Socialist

    age you can buy a gun

    I used the vehicle comparison specifically to demonstrate that the root cause of a deadly public safety problem doesn't have to be the focus of policy solutions. Instead mitigating harm is also effective. There is no equivalency being made between those two topics beyond that specific point. An...
  20. Virgil the Socialist

    age you can buy a gun

    That's a lame argument though. We don't have to only focus on the cause to make policies that help alleviate a problem. For example tens of thousands of people die each year in traffic collisions. It's not necessary for us to only "address the cause" of why people tend to crash into one another...
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