Notre Dame Cathedral Burns Down

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Read the OP. This is a discussion better suited to a separate thread.

This is the news center part of this site. I can say I don't care about that church burning if I want.
 

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You are wrong. This is the news center, and I can say why I don't care about that building burning.

Stop trying to control people who don't agree with you.

He wasn't trying to control you. He was answering your question of where to debate something.
 

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So you don't know that God says to speak as if we are speaking the words of God?
You know what, when you get elected Pope and are speaking ex cathedra then you can say that you're speaking "the very truth of God". But for the time being how about you be content with speaking your own words as if they were significant or well founded in holy scripture and we can decide if you're right or if you are not :)

1 Peter 4:11 If anyone speaks, they should do so as one who speaks the very words of God
It pleases me that you quote from a Papal Encyclical from Pope Saint Peter the first, the first pope of the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church when he was resident in Rome not too long before he was martyred. His letters are dear to me as one of the faithful in the Church that Jesus Christ founded and over which he appointed Pope Saint Peter the first to govern and over which saint Peter's successors have governed to this day.

Let us praise God almighty for the gift of his one, holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, the Catholic Church, for its constant testimony to the truth revealed by Jesus Christ and for the beautiful buildings raised in his honour and to the honour of his glorious saints and to most the most blessed, holy, pure, and good mother of the Lord, the blessed virgin Mary.

Okay then, I will post in the World Religion & Speculative Theology forum.

Very well :)
 

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He wasn't trying to control you. He was answering your question of where to debate something.

No, he was merely attacking me. I was discussing the Catholic churches.
 
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You know what, when you get elected Pope and are speaking ex cathedra then you can say that you're speaking "the very truth of God". But for the time being how about you be content with speaking your own words as if they were significant or well founded in holy scripture and we can decide if you're right or if you are not :)


It pleases me that you quote from a Papal Encyclical from Pope Saint Peter the first, the first pope of the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church when he was resident in Rome not too long before he was martyred. His letters are dear to me as one of the faithful in the Church that Jesus Christ founded and over which he appointed Pope Saint Peter the first to govern and over which saint Peter's successors have governed to this day.

Let us praise God almighty for the gift of his one, holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, the Catholic Church, for its constant testimony to the truth revealed by Jesus Christ and for the beautiful buildings raised in his honour and to the honour of his glorious saints and to most the most blessed, holy, pure, and good mother of the Lord, the blessed virgin Mary.



Very well :)

I am not going to reply to this post except to say if you want to debate me on Catholicism, take it to the appropriate forum.
 

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I am not going to reply to this post except to say if you want to debate me on Catholicism, take it to the appropriate forum.

Notre Dame Cathedral was and will be quite beautiful. It was built for the glory of God. It is a blessing that people had 850 years to enjoy and will, God willing, have many more years to enjoy its beauty as testimony to God's goodness, purity, holiness, and compassion. It is also very appropriate that it is called Our Lady of Paris being a reference to the Blessed Virgin Mary who is the mother of the Lord Jesus Christ and consequently the mother of God manifest in the flesh.
 

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No, he was merely attacking me. I already discussed with MoreCoffee on where to debate Catholicism.

That's a serious accusation. Could you please copy and paste the exact portion of his post that attacked you? Please be specific and then state why you believe it was an attack on you.
 

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That's a serious accusation. Could you please copy and paste the exact portion of his post that attacked you? Please be specific and then state why you believe it was an attack on you.

We were talking about the Catholic churches. This thread is about the Catholic church.

I think it is terrible to build big expensive churches.

People already donated close to a billion dollars to fix the Notre Dame Cathedral.

It is a shame with so much money going to a building and so many people in hospitals that need help.
 
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Notre Dame Cathedral was and will be quite beautiful. It was built for the glory of God. It is a blessing that people had 850 years to enjoy and will, God willing, have many more years to enjoy its beauty as testimony to God's goodness, purity, holiness, and compassion. It is also very appropriate that it is called Our Lady of Paris being a reference to the Blessed Virgin Mary who is the mother of the Lord Jesus Christ and consequently the mother of God manifest in the flesh.

It is beautiful looking, but show in the Bible where it says big expensive buildings are for the glory of God.

When Jesus walked the earth, he potentially had many mothers.

Luke 8:21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.
 

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It is beautiful looking, but show in the Bible where it says big expensive buildings are for the glory of God.
The temple? ;)

When Jesus walked the earth, he potentially had many mothers.

Luke 8:21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.
 

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The Catholic churches are no temple.
Catholic Cathedral Churches are usually better looking.

The temple had to be built exactly as God said.

Nah, it was built as Solomon said, not quite the same as God saying it.
 

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Catholic Cathedral Churches are usually better looking.



Nah, it was built as Solomon said, not quite the same as God saying it.

Hebrews 8:5 They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: "See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain."
 

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Hebrews 8:5 They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: "See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain."

You do know that the sanctuary - also called the tabernacle - was a tent and not the temple, right?
 

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We were talking about the Catholic churches. This thread is about the Catholic church.

I think it is terrible to build big expensive churches.

People already donated close to a billion dollars to fix the Notre Dame Cathedral.

It is a shame with so much money going to a building and so many people in hospitals that need help.

I asked you to provide specific parts of his post that attacked you and you failed to provide me with that. Josiah and other members here are long time members who are encouraged to give assistance to new members when they ask a question. That's not attacking. Please don't make claims against my members here unless you are willing to provide valid proof. It won't be tolerated.
 

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This thread is about the Catholic church.


No. It's not about any denomination. Or about the beliefs or practices of ANY denomination. It's not in any theology forum, it's not in any denomination forum, it's in the NEWS forum.

A very, very famous, beloved, historic building has burned.... THAT'S the issue of this thread.



A blessed Easter to all...


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Josiah said:
YourTruthGod said:
Where is the appropriate place on this site for a debate about Catholicism?


We don't really debate denominations per se here...

We do discuss doctrines and practices.

IF you have a specific doctrine to discuss, you may present it in either Christian doctrine or in Speculative Theology (depending on what it is and how you want it discussed; staff can help you). My recommendation is that you state the doctrine (you mentioned Catholicism; it is especially easy in this regard since its theology is well summerized in its Catechism). Then you can relate why you agree or disagree.... and see where the discussion goes. You will get further (and avoid talks from the Staff) if you only discuss the doctrine and not anyone participating in the thread (whether they are "for" or "against").



You are wrong. This is the news center, and I can say why I don't care about that building burning.

Stop trying to control people who don't agree with you.


It seems you didn't read what you posted. Nor did you note what question you asked that I replied to.


Since you claim my answer is "wrong," prove that. Show me how my reply is contrary to the polity of this website.




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No. It's not about any denomination. Or about the beliefs or practices of ANY denomination. It's not in any theology forum, it's not in any denomination forum, it's in the NEWS forum.

A very, very famous, beloved, historic building has burned.... THAT'S the issue of this thread.



A blessed Easter to all...


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I came to the news section about the burning of notre dame cathedral and, I didn't do wrong to say that I wouldn't want to step foot in another Catholic church and the notre dame is a waste of money.

I also didn't need you to tell me that thread was not for debating all things Catholic.
 

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It seems you didn't read what you posted. Nor did you note what question you asked that I replied to.


Since you claim my answer is "wrong," prove that. Show me how my reply is contrary to the polity of this website.




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I wasn't asking you or imaginary. I was speaking to MC, the Catholic, which you and imaginary are not.
 

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I asked you to provide specific parts of his post that attacked you and you failed to provide me with that. Josiah and other members here are long time members who are encouraged to give assistance to new members when they ask a question. That's not attacking. Please don't make claims against my members here unless you are willing to provide valid proof. It won't be tolerated.

Well you are playing favoritism for sure, which is not right. You put down a new member who gives a lot of time here. I haven't heard you publicly tell some of the people here to watch how they talk to me.

I will leave this site because I will not tolerate the way you treat me. This isn't the first time I have been treated wrongly by you.
 
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